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Parents have a lot of difficult conversations with their children about drugs and sex, but there’s one topic that isn’t discussed as much and that’s how to tell kids when a parent is sick.

The MOMS’ Denise Albert and Shari Schnall, who is celebrating her 10-year “Liver-versary,” share insight into the best ways to get a child involved in a parent’s recovery while still protecting them. Following a liver transplant, Schnall is now healthy and a mom to 4-year-old Lexi.

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