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Death threats, reporters’ families targeted over controversial gun-owner map

When the Journal News published a map that details the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties, the paper’s editors say, they expected some criticism — but not death threats.

According to the New York Times, “Information [has been posted online] about where their children attended school; some reporters have received notes saying they would be shot on the way to their cars; bloggers have encouraged people to steal credit card information of Journal News employees; and two packages containing white powder have been sent to the newsroom and a third to a reporter’s home.”

The powder proved to be harmless, and, so far, much of the blow-back has been happening online.  In New Rochelle, the Talk of the Sound blogger Bob Cox attempted to turn the tables by creating his own map that pinpoints the homes of Journal News employees.

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This map posted online claims to show the addresses of Journal News employees. The map is in response to the paper’s controversial decision to publish a map showing the addresses of gun owners.

“I don’t think my map is particularly fair to the Journal News employees, many of them have nothing to do with the story, but that’s in the same spirit of the Journal News map which is equally unfair,” Cox told PIX 11 News over the phone from Florida.

Still, Cox said, he did not think the story would take a threatening turn.

“I certainly don’t endorse the types of things I’m reading in the New York Times, about the threats, anthrax scares, getting people’s children involved, I just wanted to address the appropriate response and I thought my map was that response,” said Cox, who insists he will not take the interactive map down from his site.

EARLIER: JOURNAL NEWS PUBLISHES GUN OWNER MAP.

State Senator Greg Ball, who represents Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, is not sympathetic to the recent security concerns of newspaper employees who have hired an armed guard stationed at their building.  He has been vocal about the Journal News’ decision to publish the original gun owner map.

Gunownermap

The Journal News created this controversial map in the wake of the Newtown shooting. It shows the addresses of registered gun owners and was widely criticized by gun rights advocates

In a statement to PIX 11 News, he said, “When asked to take the site down, they [Journal News] told all of these good, law-abiding people to ‘eat cake’.  Well, now these same editors are getting a taste of that poisonous cake.”

FULL PIX11 COVERAGE: THE GUN CONTROL DEBATE

At the Journal News headquarters in White Plains, armed guards will continue to protect the offices indefinitely.

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469 Comments to “Death threats, reporters’ families targeted over controversial gun-owner map”

    realoldguy said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    But I thought the whole fantasy was fighting off some home invasion with your gun and an original quip like "Make my day, punk!" Here I thought they'd have to pry the gun away from the owner's cold, dead fingers like Chuck Heston said. But it turns out that gun owners need to be protected from other gun enthusiasts trying to take away their guns. Or maybe they need more guns to safeguard the guns they already have. What a bunch of lames! And what's going to happen when they all get Alzheimers and forget the number of that amendment?

      Rebcraig said:
      January 9, 2013 at 10:32 AM

      Used to live in South Africa, They also legislated our guns away, now people are being murdered in their beds with, hatchets, bricks, knives, bare fists, kitchen knives and guns. If you ask me? I would rather be taken out with a gun that beaten or slaughtered with a brick, hatchet etc. Its the more humane way????? is it not.
      Damn all you liberals to hell for changing this world to what it is and to where it is going.
      As for publishing my gun owning ass in a newspaper? go ahead, make my day! (as they say in the classics) Except you dont know when I am and when I am not!

      WTE said:
      January 9, 2013 at 1:03 PM

      You think a home invasion is a fanatsy?

      Roger said:
      January 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      Have you heard about the mother in Georgia who defended herself?

      Would you have actually done anything to put her in that spot? These maps make people targets, real people not just numbers or addresses.

    momemome said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    One thing that no one seems to be saying is that although they published the list of concealed carry permit holders, who I would avoid like the plague since they have to have a certain amount of skill to be issued these permits, there are any number of weapons out there that don't require permits that can do lots of damage without the skill required of a hand gun. Just saying…

    RobertX said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    It was supremely negligent and harmful for the paper to publish that. They deserve what they get.

    DJH said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    I wholly disagree with the death threats and anyone disgusting enough to threaten someone's child – even if only to intimidate, is a coward in my book. Still, turn about is fair play, you reap what you sow and the unethical, integrity challenged, unprofessional intellectual cowards in the media (abc/cnn/cbs/nbc/nyt et al) and especially the journal news have deceived, lied and omitted relevant facts on nearly every topic of importance – add to that, every single one of them is 'reporting' an ideology, THEIR ideology, not the news and they need to be held to account for their treasonous breach of the public trust.
    You brought this on, don't even try to play off the pathetic excuse of performing a public service or some cop out about your editorial or journalistic ethics – YOU HAVE NONE. You wanted to shame law abiding American citizens who have dared exercise the rights they have had since 1776 because YOU DISAGREE with them. That's your problem!

    I'll be looking forward to hearing about the journal news closing their doors (along with a slew of far left, un-American papers and magazines purporting to be news) and the intellectual cowards are forced to rely on the gov't they propagandized into overreach

    lawrence said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:40 AM

    t much commom sense, won't go anywhere does not fit the Agenda!!

    NotGoin2Takeit said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    They ensured that crime and violence will occur to at least some fraction of those on the gun owing list.

    Wild_Bill,nc said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

    With the wide spread use of the Inter-net, Smart phones, and News shows,,,, tangible news papers don't sell like they once did, so in their wisdom, they thought this would boost intrest in their paper…..publicity, whether it's good or bad, is still publicity……No body cared what I had in my house yesterday, so knowing what I have today, is still noones concern…..I also have a chainsaw, cup-cakes and four kittens…..

      S.R. Potocki said:
      January 9, 2013 at 10:01 AM

      In publishing their article, The Journal News has inadvertantly done a service to two distinctly different groups of people. First, for those who were identified as being armed, enjoy the fact that many criminals now know to avoid your home specifically. Secondly, for the un-armed, now the criminals know who does not have a gun and who does not represent a threat to them when they want to break into your home. The Journal News editors knew better than to do this, someone said it…someone in the office said, “Hey, this is just a bad idea…just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should.” at which point, somehow, an idiot won the arguement, the blow back from this should be by the citizens of New York and hopefully it will take the form of the paper shutting down. On the flip side, those who oppose what the news did, be vocal, write, call…but don’t make threats and act stupid, you only destroy your position and make those at the Journal look like they were justified.
      .

    deano said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    now lets see the gun owners show up at these address in mass and PROTEST. time to turn the tables on these lib editors and writers.

    Bill in Tennessee said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Here is my expression of sympathy toward these "journalists"…. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…!!! There, that's all the sympathy I can muster for you morons.

    Tim said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    Hillareous. I hope the editors go home daily with a slight bit of fear in their minds. And I hope the employees with fear in their minds go find another place to work.

    Tim said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:52 AM

    Boy, talk about an employer creating a hostile work environment. I hope employees file suit.

    caligula said:
    January 9, 2013 at 9:55 AM

    boo hoo. you get what you deserve pu$$y azz journalists. you're messing with peoples' lives. expect them to respond accordingly.

    CommentGuy7 said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    If a riot ever broke out then all of these liberals, for protection and safety would make a bee-line to the homes of (possibly Republicans – gun owners) Once the riot is over and order is restored, these same liberals would go back to the comfort of their homes and would still be against guns. Liberals, they never learn.

    Liberals feel, Conservatives think. This is why liberals are winning. All they have to do is make you feel a certain way, inspite of its irrationality. They will never make you think.

    Kraven said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

    The hell with all these threats someone needs to actually do something to one or more of them. Then they will take it down. This stuff reminds me of that movie Red Dawn Where the enemy knows who has guns because they take over the government building where the info is stored

    Don Saar said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM

    Yea!

    Post online, broadcast to the pedophiles, sexual predators and gun-wielding criminals, all the Gun Free schools of the Journal News reporters to where these "reporters" send their totally innocent kiddies … just like the totally innocent, but legal, gun owners who've committed absolutely no crimes such as retired NYCity police officers and retired NYCity judges.

    Now, that's a Great, Great Idea!!

    Next should be all sorts of public information posted online regarding welfare recipients; Social Security recipients when their monthly checks are due in the mail; abortions performed on whom and by whom paid for by the government; all drunk driving DUIs living nearby in the neighborhood; all pedophiles should be known to the wide vast public; all previous sexual rapists of men or women; all stalkers of women under present court order; all non-virgin rape victims; all convicted drug felons but released on parole should be publicly broadcast widely on the internet and radio, television; all bankruptcies and bankrupt persons should be exposed to the neighborhood as a threat to their neighbors property and livelihood; all prior jail sentences of anyone, in fact, should be exposed so as to not allow these criminal elements in our public neighborhoods to be ever again left alone without careful scrutiny and wise neighborhood "judgment".

    You know, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, the public's "right to know" without any inhibitions whatsoever regarding so-called 'rights to privacy'.

    What's Good for the Goose should also be Good for the Goose!!!!

    But the best one still is publishing the Gun Free Schools of the Journal News "reporters" innocent children!!!!!!!!

    You know, the ages of the children, when they arrive, when they leave public or private school, how they're transported back and forth, what grade they're in, when school vacations begin and end, and so forth. It's all public information, no? For public safety, no?

    Oh, let's also throw in the nearby, local, Gun Free public library(ies) to where these innocent children may go during after school hours FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION.

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    manniep said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    If the Domestic Enemy tries to extinguish the 2nd Amendment, or to violate it beyond tolerance, there will be resistance. There will be armed resistance. This is what the Second Amendment is all about; it is about preserving The Constitution against tyranny. No more Infringement. Give me Liberty or give me Death.

    Be careful, Liberals, that you don't let the genie of Civil War out of the bottle. For there will be blood. And it will undoubtedly spin out of control. Sadly, we would probably lose much of our constitutional rights in the aftermath of a revolution, but they are taking them now, and destroying my country. At least, maybe we can save something to build back from.

    Damn the Democrats. Damn every one.

      Strider55 said:
      January 9, 2013 at 1:48 PM

      The tree of liberty requires frequent watering with the blood of patriots and tyrants." — Thomas Jefferson

      It will be our job to make sure that we (the patriots) bleed as little as possible while the streets run red with their (the tyrants') blood.

    Brad said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:27 AM

    They earned every single threat.

    robert said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Funny how they do a hit piece on gun owners and when threatened, turn to some one with a gun to protect them. Hipocrites.

    Guest said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM

    I would imagine the editors at the "Journal News" will now call for banning all white powder substances because they can be used to terrorize people and the U.S. postal service should be abolished because it deliverd the white powder "substance."

    The Journal News used their paper not with the intent of providing useful information for the public good and welfare, but as a weapon to instill fear , or at the very least, discomfort among those who lawfully owned guns, and that is not just bad jounalistic practice, but provides transparent view of their total disregard for the privacy and safety of the public at large. Does anyone really believe they did it in the hope it would add further protection for the people whose names and addresses they published? No, they did not, they did it with malice and aforethought, and committed a criminal act on a grand scale.

    doogh said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    On CNN, after failing to even debate him competently, Piers Morgan, Buzz Bissinger and Abby Huntsman discussed how satisfying it would be to kill Alex Jones. Here is Bissinger's rep #: 973.783.7575

    hhhmmm said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    so now the journal has an armed security? ironic

    Indy56 said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

    You mean there were consequences for their actions. I mean really they are the media

    Mic Doodle said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    What? consequences for their actions? No way! I always thought members of the press were above society and the law. They should be able to do anything and expose anyone without any repurcussions! Like some sort of ruling class or existential presence…like a god I suppose. Good riddance if any of these media sob's take it in the shorts.

    Pouncekitty said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    Disgusting liberal politics again. What's good for you is not good for me. That's their motto. "Targeting" reporter's homes is a good way to wake up these morons. A free press is NOT entitled to intimidate and harass people they don't agree with. That's Stalin stuff, Obama stuff, the kind of tyranny liberals want to visit on all of us.

    jjojhn said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:53 AM

    They are idiots at that paper. They should be posting felons' addresses, not gun owners. That's akin to posting the addresses of police officers. You know, like the sex-offender databases. But then liberals were never known for their intelligence.

    NY Taxi Driver said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    The threat the owners feel is of criminals using this information to target homes to steal the guns.
    In the same way some insurance companies data files have been targeted to be used for selective burgulary.

    Anonymous age 70 said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    So, nobody here understands traditional Communist provocateurs? There is a good chance it is anti-gunners who made the threats, trying to make gun owners look violent and evil. This dirty trick is as old as the hills.

      wgswst said:
      January 9, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      Those making threats do need to be outed. Let us see for ourselves who's doing it.

        wgswst said:
        January 9, 2013 at 11:35 AM

        Although, actually, I doubt those threats even exist.

        The only "threat" that was actually brought to police, I believe, was determined to not be a threat at all.

    nauthizjane said:
    January 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

    I'd be will to be IF there are death threats that they are from leftist posers or other criminals. The law abiding gun owners do not make threats. Call me skeptic, but this paper is run by leftist anti American radicals who hate their own country.

    tigersgrowl said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    Seriously, what did they think was going to happen. The news outlet basically put the people's lives at risk… so, they are just serving back what was served to them. You put my child's school on the map and where I live among other threats to my family… what goes around, comes around.

    Robert Evans said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    It is good what was done to the Journal News. Give them a taste of their own poison. Involving family is regrettable, but necessary, given current laws forbidding dueling. It would be much better if laws preventing dueling were revoked, so that the guilty party can be confronted directly by the injured party.

    I wonder how those effeminate new york reporters would react if their lives are legally at risk in a duel if they slander someone and refuse to apologize. I think personal responsibility would suddenly go through the roof.

    Sam said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    The guns owned by all levels of government should be registered with details about type and location of storage and use appearing in a publication of record. Lock, stock and barrel, these guns were paid for by the public and the public has a right to the information. A registration of all individuals authorized to use guns owned by the government should also appear in a publication of record.

    shawn michels said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Gee, I feel so sorry for these reporters. I'm going to cry crocodile tears all day for these anti-Constitution bastards.

    Robert Evans said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    I wonder how many of those news people have guns. I bet many, because hypocrisy is never a problem with liberals. After all, the big gun grabbers, Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer carry concealed weapons, and Mayor Bloomberg is surrounded by armed security.

    Tankette said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Am I supposed to feel sorry for these reporters? I don't. You "out" innocent law abiding citizens and expect what? Go "f" yourself.

    wgswst said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    The Right is learning how to push back. Use these filthy lefties' own tactics against them.

    That's a GOOD thing :)

    banger377 said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Hey st upid libs, you push to hard and get a reaction, what the he ll do you expect? Do you really believe you can try to disarm Americans without getting a response? Pass a law and try to enforce it. If I know my Americans, I think there will be a directed blood bath and don't be to surprised if you are one of the recipients. It will be on YOUR head.

    Logic said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    Just goes to show how law abiding and patient all those people on the list are. If there were criminals being exposed, these lousy reporters would already be 6 under. How sad their flawed logic is.

    biglouie15 said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    What did these a $$ wholes think would happen? They threw the safety of both LEGAL gun owners and those who chose not to own guns under the bus. They should be held liable for any break ins in both cases. Meanwhile, they are probably out buying guns now for their own protection.

    Dana Thompson said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    A lot of commenters are overlooking the fact that non-gun owners on the map are just as much offended-against as the gun owners. Burglers now know which houses they can hit without risk of being shot.

    Keith R. Wood said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    The people on the map published by the newspaper were forced BY LAW to register their handguns, and the paper didn’t respect their privacy.

    The people on the map published by Cox CHOOSE to work for the newspaper. They deserve NO privacy.

    Considering the number of domestic-violence victims whose addresses are now available to their attackers — and those whose addresses are known, but now have been proven to have no weapons for defense — I really can’t find much sympathy for the newspaper people.

    Publications have consequences.

    Mark said:
    January 9, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    This newspaper chose to act like the KKK, then they deserve the exact same treatment. Nothing in the first amendment says that freedom of speech is only for the media. I don't like that kids allegedly were threatened, but in revealing the gun permit holder[s] the same had the lives of the same[s] kids threatened, also.

    You build your own fate by the choices you make. This newspaper[s] staff had never been taught
    as young people that outcomes will go beyond the belt or even a grounding. A sobering indictment of 'don't let me catch you'-related child rearing ways. I know of several career criminals
    whom were raised .'catching'; none of them have ever reformed and are still yet menaces today.

    To all involved here, stop and consider the outcome before acting any further here. The Newspaper must investigated for making terroristic threats in publishing that personal of a map. Journalistic Freedom goes tandem with journalistic Responsibility.

    AnAmerican said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    what the government and the media are hiding from americans is that in every mass killing the killer(s) were on mood altering perscriptions or recently off them. This is one of the biggest problems in America, DOCTORS! They are responsible for unreal medical costs for elders and the young, anyone with a DR. attached to their name can do or say or get away with anything they want to. In my state its almost impossible to sue a doctor or hospital for anything yet that is their excuse for the higher that realistic prices they charge, (malpractice ins.) We have to start looking for the real reasons for disasters and address them instead of following someones agenda which has consequences that are deliberately hidden or are simply not understood be these political retards that currently are trying to take America apart. Stop the maddness and address the real problems and leave the U.S. constitution ALONE, it was written by men who were alot smarter than anyone I have seen in Washington or anywhere else for that matter.

    MichelleObamasFatass said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Yawn dont care about the reporters. They get what they deserve.

    julio said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    Turn a bout fair play eh libtards? Doesn't feel so good does it. You can dish it out but can't take it. I truly hope nothing happens to you or your families, hopefully you have learned a lesson here.

    jesus said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:14 PM

    lol so the newspaper whore have ARMED guards. hilarious. Fuck em. They deserve whatever happens to them.

    egr said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:18 PM

    Isnt it ironic that they used armed guards at their offices after slamming the right to bear arms

    chrispy said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    Ironic that they did this being anti-gun and now require armed guards. Arm the guards with batons, hypocrites.

    Jack P said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    In the great State of Georgia, records on gun purchases, concealed carry licenses, and related are exempt from the State's open records law. Also, anyone using a gun in self defense, has unqualified immunity from civil suits. Yes, GA is a gun friendly State to all law-abiding residents.

    Larry said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Dear Journal News — what goes around comes around

    Ironic that your response to the issue is to "Hire Armed Guards"

    WOW are you liberals stupid

      Strider55 said:
      January 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      If Letterman ever did a "Top 10 Redundancies" list, "stupid liberal" would be #1.

        Azdevnull said:
        January 9, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        That would be a "List of top 10 redundancies, redundant top 10 list"

    lidster said:
    January 9, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    interestingly, this rag DID NOT REPORT the fact that they've hired armed guards in response to so-called threats they've received. So, they claim they published the personal info of gun owners as a service to their readership, but when they bring guns onto their office campus, "nothing to see here". What kind of news judgment does this editor use?

      EverHawk said:
      January 9, 2013 at 3:05 PM

      Thought this was interesting too. At the end of the story, the reporter adds that "armed guards" have been posted at the newspaper office. The implication being that it is legitimate for them to hire guards armed with pistols to protect their employees, but that individuals with guns need to be identified in the community.

      I'm not a gun owner, but can appreciate that some do own them for their own protection.

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